Wednesday 6 July 2011

They Are Crazy, Not Me, Iam










Justice Department Obstructing 'Fast and Furious' Gun Probe, ATF Director Says
FoxNews.com ^ | July 6, 2011 | By William Lajeunesse

Posted on July-06-11 8:54:58 AM by topher

Justice Department Obstructing 'Fast and Furious' Gun Probe, ATF Director Says

By William Lajeunesse

The Justice Department is obstructing the congressional investigation of a U.S. law enforcement operation intended to crack down on major weapons traffickers on the Southwest border, according to the embattled leader of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

Ken Melson, the acting director of the ATF, lobbed the accusation when he sneaked in for an interview with congressional investigators on July 4, two days ahead of his scheduled interview with the inspector general about the operation known as "Fast and Furious," Fox News has learned.

"If his account is accurate, then ATF leadership appears to have been effectively muzzled while the DOJ sent over false denials and buried its head in the sand," Rep. Darrell Issa, chairman of the Oversight and Government Reform Committee, said in a letter Tuesday to Attorney General Eric Holder. "That approach distorted the truth and obstructed our investigation."

The Justice Department is reportedly looking to oust Melson, who has been acting ATF director since April 2009, as the agency deals with its biggest scandal in nearly two decades. Andrew Traver, who was tapped in November by President Obama to become the permanent ATF director, could be named as acting director until the Senate acts on his nomination, sources have said.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; batfe; bhodoj; bloodoftyrants; corruption; democrats; doj; dojisajoke; fastandfurious; govtabuse; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; holderisajoke; holdertruthfile; issa; liberalfascism; melson; obama; obamatruthfile; traver; tyranny


Fox news and the head of ATF say there is obstruction of Justice.Any surprises with this being the Obama/Holder Department of Justice?



1 posted on July-06-11 8:55:04 AM by topher




To: topher



So, is this Op and any similar over/terminated/halted, etc?


2 posted on July-06-11 8:58:01 AM by Paladin2




To: topher



Change You Can Believe In!!!! Transparency in Government!!!

think this will be mentioned before page 43 in the NYSLimes???


3 posted on July-06-11 8:58:36 AM by God (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)




To: topher



The DoJ, Holder and Obama dishonest and covering up stuff???

Who knew!


4 posted on July-06-11 8:59:43 AM by Farnsworth



To: topher



Big whoop. Nothing will come of this. Now if a Republican had misspelled “potato”, THAT would be news.


5 posted on July-06-11 9:00:13 AM by Jeff Chandler (Just once I'd like someone to call me 'Sir' without adding 'You're making a scene.' - Homer Simpson)




To: topher

From the article:
Issa and Grassley have urged Holder to cooperate and turn over subpoenaed records that would reveal the scope of the government coverup.

I guess subpoenas that make Obama and Holder and the Dimwit [Democrat] Party look bad are blocked...

Holder-Gate? Obama-Gate? or DimWit-Gate? [only a "Dimwit" would devise such a stupid scheme]


6 posted on July-06-11 9:01:26 AM by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)




To: topher



Just Holder protecting Hussein.


7 posted on July-06-11 9:01:55 AM by 4yearlurker




To: marktwain



Looks like Melson will not go quietly under the bus. If he starts naming names we’ll know if he’s serious or not.


8 posted on July-06-11 9:03:32 AM by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)




To: God luvs America



June 16, 2011, on page A22 of the NYTIMES.


9 posted on July-06-11 9:04:04 AM by Jeff Chandler (Just once I'd like someone to call me 'Sir' without adding 'You're making a scene.' - Homer Simpson)




To: topher

Mayap Mr. Melson might repent and try a stint as "Deep Keyboard."He'd be famous!


10 posted on July-06-11 9:05:15 AM by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")




To: Jeff Chandler

So, so true. But with the freedom of the Internet, some folks can make this news [and some media outlets that have balls/fair reporting], the smart people will know who to listen to... The cattle will still be cattle... Being led to slaughter...

11 posted on July-06-11 9:05:27 AM by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)




To: topher


Mexico calling for extradition of officials involved with Fast and Furious.
ATF Whistleblower Speaks Out
Jun 30, 2011 - 6:15 - Vince Cefalu, who's being pushed out by the agency, discusses the botched gun operation

Fox News interview with senior agent Vince Cefalu. He has been terminated and says about 30 other agents have been terminated due to their opposition to operation Fast and Furious. Says DoJ was intimately involved.



12 posted on July-06-11 9:07:56 AM by TigersEye (Wranglers not Levis. Levi Strauss is anti-2nd Amendment.)




To: Jeff Chandler



Thats not true!! Where did John Wayne live, now that is news.


13 posted on July-06-11 9:08:02 AM by italianquaker (When will Wallace ask obama if he is a flake?)




To: topher



The ATF was going after an FBI informant that had already been deported? Just beautiful /s.


14 posted on July-06-11 9:08:11 AM by HollyB




To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...



The list, ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/

Collected Files on Gunrunner-Gate

http://www.nachumlist.com/gunrunner.htm


15 posted on July-06-11 9:09:13 AM by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)




To: topher



Appointing a special prosecutor should be part of the debt ceiling negotiations.


16 posted on July-06-11 9:09:51 AM by Tex-Con-Man




To: topher



Oh my, and to think I heard two talking libtards last night assert that Holder would have had no idea of Fast and Furious.... /s =.=


17 posted on July-06-11 9:11:07 AM by cranked




To: All

I wonder if this guy [Melson] might meet with an untimely accident before the hearing.There is a Clinton as Secretary of State.

Does Obama have access to the Dixie Mafia?

Or will Obama call on the Black Panthers to HELP OUT in this situation?

Maybe Obama will be like Hillbilly Bill Clinton and believe that Deadmen tell no tales...


18 posted on July-06-11 9:12:23 AM by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)




To: topher



The letter is pretty damning, as far as letters go in the delicate political chess game. A pdf of the letter can be downloaded from here: http://oversight.house.gov/images/stories/Letters/2011-07-05%20ceg-dei%20to%20ag.pdf


19 posted on July-06-11 9:12:32 AM by Oceander (The phrase "good enough for government work" is not meant as a compliment)




To: cranked



They lie!


20 posted on July-06-11 9:13:32 AM by Catsrus




To: HollyB

That is why they sold thousands and thousands of Assault Rifles [justification].I still say the Democrat Party is the party of Dimwits...

They are also Rats as in Democ-Rats...


21 posted on July-06-11 9:14:20 AM by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)




To: cranked



Because Holder is an Affirmative Action hire?


22 posted on July-06-11 9:15:01 AM by TigersEye (Wranglers not Levis. Levi Strauss is anti-2nd Amendment.)




To: topher



Please stop cluttering up the board with these obscure stories. I want to learn more about some controversial murder trial in a distant state!

/sarc/


23 posted on July-06-11 9:15:07 AM by Beelzebubba (Government borrowing is Taxation without Representation)




To: topher

"Ken Melson, the acting director of the ATF, lobbed the accusation when he sneaked in for an interview with congressional investigators "Why would he 'sneak in' for an interview and how would that be possible?

You just dont show up and ask to talk to them- they arranged the meeting, didnt they?

Maybe Melson figures the bus is heading his way and wants to keep the tire tracks off himself


24 posted on July-06-11 9:17:07 AM by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])




To: Oceander



Too bad FoxNews did not include this letter in their article...


25 posted on July-06-11 9:18:05 AM by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)




To: topher

Andrew Traver, who was tapped in November by President Obama to become the permanent ATF director, could be named as acting director until the Senate acts on his nominationSo we end up with a worse Obama toady. BFD.


26 posted on July-06-11 9:18:49 AM by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)




To: Nachum



Sounds like Melson has them by the short ones. They wanted him to resign/take the fall, and it appears his answer was, ‘which finger am I holding up?’. And no way would he attend a secret meeting with Republicans unless he had the goods (in hardcopy form) on somebody higher up.

Finally, it appears Obama’s lawless reign has hit a bump. Let’s hope it lands Barry’s infamous bus in the ditch.


27 posted on July-06-11 9:19:16 AM by Fantasywriter




To: topher



Is anyone surprised that the ‘most transparent administration evah’ is obstructing a probe?


28 posted on July-06-11 9:20:33 AM by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)




To: Oceander

Poster Oceander posted this link to the letter from Rep. Issa and Senator Grassley.This is definitely worth reading.

Note that this is a link to a PDF and is about 2.5 megabytes.

PDF LINK BELOW to letter about this:

Letter to AG Eric Holder from Congressman Darrell Issa, Chairman of House Oversight and Government Reform, and Senator Charles Grassley, Ranking Member of Justice Committee, US Senate


29 posted on July-06-11 9:24:25 AM by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)




To: topher



Can you say High Crimes and Misdemeanors?


30 posted on July-06-11 9:26:28 AM by Emperor Palpatine (Can you afford to board the Chattanooga Choo-Choo?)




To: topher



“U.S. law enforcement operation intended to crack down on major weapons traffickers”

No one has yet to explain the above sentence. How was this supposed to crack down on major weapons traffickers? There was no tracking system. This sentence makes no sense at all if you have been keeping up with this story, and it came from Fox News, no less. The brainwashing continues.


31 posted on July-06-11 9:28:12 AM by suthener




To: Lurker

One can only hope Melson doesn't go sailing out the top floor window like Abe Reles, (the canary who could sing but couldn't fly) did when he started to name names in Murder, Inc.




32 posted on July-06-11 9:30:21 AM by Emperor Palpatine (Can you afford to board the Chattanooga Choo-Choo?)




To: TigersEye



Your posted comment reminds us that this fiasco is much bigger than snark meat. This is an international incident that will not be swept under the rug by Holder/Obama, their politics and their cover up. Holder may be impeached over this and should be, if he doesn’t resign first. With Mexico continuing to raise hell over the course of the forseeable future even the democrats will be forced to run Holder off.


33 posted on July-06-11 9:30:53 AM by RitaOK ( We hang together or hang separately. 2012, or bust.)




To: TigersEye

I knew about Vince Cefalu. I did not hear about the 30 other agents...This story has got to have legs for us to continue to be a free country...

FoxNews will not ignore. Michelle Malkin will not ignore. Rush will not ignore. And other conservative talking heads will not ignore.

Who in the Presidential Primaries [GOP] have the balls to take up issue? Sarah Palin, Tim Pawlenty, and certainly Michelle Bachmann. Interesting that two of the three that I think have the balls to make this an issue for 2012 are women...


34 posted on July-06-11 9:31:23 AM by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)




To: Oceander



Ka-BOOM!! Read the letter. Holder is in trouble.

Somebody is going to jail.


35 posted on July-06-11 9:38:20 AM by cookcounty (Would someone PLEASE give the President a calculator for his birthday???)




To: TigersEye

30 other ATF agents have been terminated????? Can this be correct?? If true, it is another indictment of our LAME STREAM PRESS

36 posted on July-06-11 9:41:37 AM by cookcounty (Would someone PLEASE give the President a calculator for his birthday???)




To: topher



We will see what the next act of this play is.


37 posted on July-06-11 9:41:37 AM by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)




To: topher



Gunwalker = Watergate X Irancontra.

I wonder when the MSM will notice it?


38 posted on July-06-11 9:43:05 AM by Travis McGee (Castigo Cay is in print and on Kindle.)




To: topher

IMPEACH this Treasonous Administration NOW!!!

39 posted on July-06-11 9:44:17 AM by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)




To: topher



Every one should repeat

“What does the President know about F&F?”
and
“When did he know it?”


40 posted on July-06-11 9:45:00 AM by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)




To: cookcounty

30 other ATF agents have been terminated?????That is what Vince Cefalu said in that interview. Today it comes out that an FBI agent was actively guiding a straw buyer for the cartels and ATF knew nothing about it. DoJ is in this deep.


41 posted on July-06-11 9:45:57 AM by TigersEye (Wranglers not Levis. Levi Strauss is anti-2nd Amendment.)




To: topher



“However, he said that Justice Department officials directed them not to respond and took full control of replying to briefing and document requests from Congress.”

Wonderful quote. I do believe that is illegal.


42 posted on July-06-11 9:45:57 AM by antiRepublicrat




To: Travis McGee; topher



Obama = Carter³ x Nixon³


43 posted on July-06-11 9:46:16 AM by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)




To: RitaOK

This is an international incident that will not be swept under the rug by Holder/Obama, their politics and their cover up. A BIG international incident.

0bama Arms Mexican Drug Cartels - Dept. of Justice Involved In Coverup!


44 posted on July-06-11 9:50:26 AM by TigersEye (Wranglers not Levis. Levi Strauss is anti-2nd Amendment.)




To: Fantasywriter



‘Sounds like Melson has them by the short ones.’

Does he?

I am never sure anymore. My first reaction is that ‘they’ will find some way to get to him. A good time to brush up on the Obama ‘Deadpool’

http://www.nachumlist.com/deadpool.htm


45 posted on July-06-11 9:51:50 AM by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)




To: topher



Whoa, looks like the buck isn’t going to stop with Melson. I guess news of his resignation 1) was premature 2) was probably news to Melson. Duck and cover, DoJ, the chitstorm is coming in your direction.


46 posted on July-06-11 9:51:59 AM by NonValueAdded (From her lips to the voters' ears: Debbie Wasserman Schultz: "We own the economy" June 15, 2011)




To: RitaOK



Democrats: not liked in Mexico, a good portion of America and wherever real work has to be completed on time.

This fiasco will follow zer0 to the election

one of our contenders should promise to hold the responsible party accountable, that would go a long way


47 posted on July-06-11 9:57:37 AM by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")




To: topher



He needs to stay away from Ft. Marcy Park.


48 posted on July-06-11 9:58:53 AM by nina0113




To: topher



heads need to roll


49 posted on July-06-11 10:00:22 AM by tutstar




To: topher

Criminals are running the country.PRAY for AMERICA! There will be justice in the end.


50 posted on July-06-11 10:00:30 AM by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)



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